Monday, August 8, 2011

Krugman Industrial Smoothing


"According to our latest quarterly thing, Kruger Industrial Smoothing is heading into the red. Or the black, or whatever the bad one is. Any thoughts?"

Paul Krugman writes in Minus 512, 2.4 Percent:

Policy makers have been worrying about the wrong things, obsessing over deficits when the real problem was lack of growth.

In The Arithmetic of Near-term Deficits and Debt he argues that the arithmetic says

the size of the deficit in the next year or two hardly matters for the US fiscal position — and in fact the size over the next decade is barely significant.

In defense of this hardly matters view, "Kruger" makes these points:

1. What matters is the real interest rate, and the real interest rate is low.

2. The estimate for "potential real GDP in 2021" is high enough that "an extra trillion in borrowing adds something like 0.07% of GDP in future debt service costs."

In other words, adding a trillion dollars to the Federal debt won't cost us very much. This is Krugman's argument.

So let me ask: Do you think Kruger's argument can win the hearts and minds of the Tea Party? of the Undecided?? of anyone not already Inclined to agree with him???

I don't.

First of all, he's playing with the numbers, talking about "real" debt versus "nominal" debt. (I didn't quote that part. I don't think it's valid. Debt is always in current dollars.)

Second, Krugman says adding to the debt won't cost us very much. But everybody and his brother -- liberals included -- all think the Federal debt is the reason our economy refuses to grow. It isn't. But people think it is. So nobody wants the Federal debt to go up. Not even a little. Krugman's argument will not fly.

Third, he's talking about "real potential GDP" ten years out. But even if, ten years from now, we still have the same estimate of "real potential GDP," there is no guarantee we'll actually achieve that best-case outcome. Little chance we will live up to our potential.

Krugman's argument is industrial-grade smoothing.


Remember, Krugman says "the real problem" is lack of growth.

What does he propose to do about it? Increase the Federal debt, because it won't cost us very much. But we've been increasing the Federal debt relentlessly -- since Reagan or before -- and it has not solved the problem of inadequate growth. So nobody thinks increasing the Federal debt more will solve that problem. And they're right.

But reducing Non-Federal debt will solve the growth problem. And you know what? People want to reduce their own debt. So they might even like that plan.

4 comments:

Matty G said...

But reducing Non-Federal debt will solve the growth problem. And you know what? People want to reduce their own debt. So they might even like that plan.

But, by accounting identity, the only way to reduce Non-Federal debt is to increase Federal debt, right? The only other possibility is running a trade surplus, and that is neither desirable in real terms nor is it in the cards.

However, if the Federal Government spends money by giving it to people who are not in debt, that will not decrease non-Federal debt. For that reason, Federal Government debt should be increased by

Once non-Federal debt is reduced, I think the ideal solution would be for the government simply to arbitrarily declare by fiat that it no longer has any debt. This could be accompanied or preceded by the Federal Government buying back a large number of treasury bonds. Federal debt is, after all, just an arbitrary accounting number. After a period of a year or two of hyperventilating and some temporary coust-push (but not demand-pull) inflation mediated through the commodities markets, the fact that the so-called "national debt" would no longer exist would make people feel better and would lead to more rational fiscal decision making.

Unfortunately, none of this has any chance whatsoever of happening in the near term.

Matty G said...

edit -

For that reason, Federal Government debt should be increased by giving money to the lower and middle classes, who are the ones in debt.

The Arthurian said...

Matty, I really like the "sectoral balances" thing which (I think) is the accounting identity of which you write. But maybe there is a term missing from the equation. Split out the Federal Reserve from government, because its power to print money changes everything.

"...if the Federal Government spends money by giving it to people who are not in debt, that will not decrease non-Federal debt. For that reason, Federal Government debt should be increased by giving money to the lower and middle classes, who are the ones in debt."

I absolutely agree with your focus on "the ones in debt".

Jazzbumpa said...

The accounting identity is:

Private Sector Financial Balance (change in book value)
+ Governmental Fiscal Balance (fiscal deficit/surplus)
= the Current Account Balance (trade deficit/surplus)

This suggests that the only way out is to run a trade surplus.

But, debt is dynamic and identities are static resultants.

The real answer is to grow GDP, by giving people jobs.

Meanwhile, debt will be paid down, and the result will be deflationary. We are coming into really, really bad times.

Cheers!
JzB