Sunday, March 16, 2014

We owe it to ourselves


Again, Steve Keen:

I couldn’t con­vince sev­eral of the aca­d­e­mics in the audi­ence of the impor­tance of pri­vate debt: they kept com­ing back to “one person’s debt is another person’s asset, there­fore the level of debt doesn’t mat­ter”.

Yeah... and I just ran across this, again, from Paul Krugman of all people:

... So, a few more thoughts on debt and what it does and doesn’t signify.

Start with the numbers that Stockman loves to cite, showing the ratio of total debt, public and private, to GDP...

Stockman, and to be fair quite a few people, would have us see this as evidence that we have been on a vast spending spree...

OK, the sheer size of that number should tell you immediately that this can’t be right. Yes, we have run trade deficits and moved from being a net creditor to being a net debtor, but it’s not that big a deal (and we still earn more on our foreign assets than we pay on our foreign liabilities). So the surge in debt reflects a surge in money Americans owe to other Americans.

Krugman: "the surge in debt reflects a surge in money Americans owe to other Americans."

There it is again, what Steve Keen said: One person's debt is another person's asset. We owe it to ourselves.


Okay. I went back and finished reading Krugman's post. He says:

This is how you want to think about debt: it’s not a burden on the nation’s resources, because it’s mainly money we owe to ourselves, and it’s a problem not because we have to tighten our belt but because debt is currently leading to spending that’s less than we need to maintain full employment.

The last part of that is good -- so good that I can almost overlook the we owe it to ourselves part. But if it is true that "debt is currently leading to spending that’s less than we need to maintain full employment", the growth of debt is the reason.

Krugman acknowledges that debt has grown, but seems to miss the point that it was the growth of debt that gradually undermined the spending we need to maintain full employment. He gets the ending: There was a moment, all of a sudden, when unemployment shot up and an output gap opened. And he can see that the high level of debt was the cause of it.

But debt didn't suddenly jump to a high level and cause the sudden opening of an output gap. Debt was creeping up for a long time, having a harmful effect on growth for a long time, until a final straw broke the camel's back and created the output gap. Debt was excessive -- meaning "debt was hurting the economy" -- for a long time. A long time.

Graph #2: Stages of the slowdown in real growth

Krugman doesn't seem to see it. He says debt is "currently" causing problems. But there is so much more to the story.


Oh, and the other thing: "debt: it’s not a burden on the nation’s resources, because it’s mainly money we owe to ourselves". I don't know what the hell that means: "a burden on the nation's resources". Resources? Debt is a burden on the people who owe it. Even though we owe it to ourselves. Or, to each other. Or, the many of us owe it to the few of us. Whatever.

No matter who we owe it to, the money we pay for our debts is money that goes to finance rather than to labor or to productive ("nonfinancial") business. The money we pay for our debts adds to cost without adding to output. Oh, yeah, we may use that money to produce stuff, or to buy stuff; but we could as easily have used our income for those purposes instead of borrowed money... As easily, or more easily, if policy encouraged it. But policy does not.

Policy encourages saving. Why? I do not know -- Maybe so banks have money to lend?? But hasn't that logic been shot down? So, policy encourages saving for no reason. No economic reason. Policy encourages saving because people like the idea, maybe. It's not a policy that actually helps people save, but nobody seems to get that. Eh, regardless, policy encourages saving.

When money goes into saving, money goes out of circulation. Funny thing is, it's money in circulation that we receive in our paychecks. The money in circulation is money that becomes income. Savings can't be income, because savings is not in the spending stream. Only circulating money flows.

A policy that encourages saving is a policy that makes less money available for use as income. Such a policy has multiple effects. It helps to limit increases of income. So you could say it is a way to fight inflation. Or you could say it prevents incomes from keeping up with the cost of living. Probably both those things are true.

The encouragement of saving also helps credit use grow. Do banks lend out savings?? Regardless, encouragement of saving shifts money out of circulation, creating a shortage of money in circulation. That is a problem people solve by borrowing more. So the encouragement of saving encourages borrowing and encourages the growth of accumulated debt.

So here ya go: Policy encourages saving, which creates a shortage of circulating money, so we increase our borrowing and our debt. Again: less circulating money, and more debt.

Graph #3: Less Circulating Money and More Debt Push the Debt-per-Dollar Ratio Up
From five dollars of debt for every circulating dollar, to more than $15 by 1990, to more than $35 by the time of the crisis.

The cost of a loan depends on the interest rate you can get. But for the economy as a whole, the cost of finance depends on two things: interest rates, and the level of debt accumulation.

The level of debt matters, because it affects the macroeconomic cost of debt.

7 comments:

Jazzbumpa said...

But why do we have all this debt? And I'm focusing on private debt, because government debt has a different dynamic.

We have this debt because wages have fallen increasingly short of what it takes to maintain a middle class life style. Two income families propped us up for a while, but it's been personal debt that was the foundation for the whole house of cards.

You can see it here.

http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/PRS84006173

because the money is going here.

http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?g=t8P

And especially here.

http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?g=t8O

Look at it this way.

http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?g=t8Q

A flow of wealth from labor to capital.

JzB

The Arthurian said...

Jazz: "But why do we have all this [private] debt? ... We have this debt because wages have fallen increasingly short..."

That's what I call a contributing consequence. Yes, declining wages lead to increased borrowing. Note that in the post I wrote:
A policy that encourages saving is a policy that makes less money available for use as income. Such a policy has multiple effects. It helps to limit increases of income. So ... you could say it prevents incomes from keeping up with the cost of living...
[It] shifts money out of circulation, creating a shortage of money in circulation. That is a problem people solve by borrowing more.


In this post I'm pointing the finger at policy that encourages saving. Not relevant to this comment. But whatever is the cause, it must have come FIRST. That *is* relevant.

You have to look for some other factor that would lead to falling wages, such that falling wages would then lead to growing debt. I turn always to policy. Bad or outdated or incorrectly applied policy. To me, the only thing that makes sense is to blame policy.

One could say: The economy changes in response to policy, as it should; and then policy also must change; but policymakers fail to think so many moves ahead.

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Your Labor Share graph shows decline since 1960. Are you pushing the declining-wage problem back to 1960? I'm not sure that's justified. All of the "compensation & productivity" graphs show a distinct separation around 1980. Are you saying that's wrong?

I argue that debt growth is continuous (till the crisis); that at the start it does more good than harm; but accumulating debt is a festering problem. It causes other problems like the need for wage and price increases, animosity between capital and labor, and anger at government.

Oilfield Trash said...

Art

Seems to me your root cause for the saving argument you are making is due to rising income inequality.

Michael Pettis has some discussion on this issue, which I will paraphrase below

It would fall into the "underconsumption" debate, which argues rich people consume a smaller share of their income than do the poor.

So if the savings rate in one part of the economy rises, without an equivalent rise in investment the only way for the economy to balance is for savings elsewhere to decline, and this can happen either in the form of a (usually credit-backed) consumption binge, or in the form of rising unemployment. The first is unsustainable.

From a Macro view

Rising income inequality reduces demand. It does so in two ways. First, it directly forces down the consumption share of GDP, and second, it reduces productive investment by reducing, as Eccles says, "the kind of effective demand for their products that would justify a reinvestment of their capital accumulations in new plants."




The Arthurian said...

Oilfield: "Seems to me your root cause for the saving argument you are making is due to rising income inequality."

In the years after World War Two, when did income inequality start rising? 1979. When did savings start climbing? Before the war was even over. And it continued almost without letup to the crisis.

Consequences may serve as contributing causes, but they do not serve as originating causes.

Oilfield Trash said...

Art

Just curious, any reason you did not use the Personal Saving Rate
PSAVERT.

The Arthurian said...

It didn't occur to me, Oilfield :)

When I look at the Personal Saving Rate (blue) I see the economy getting better until the mid-1970s, then getting worse till the crisis. Then the rate jumped up even though we couldn't afford to save, because suddenly we couldn't afford *not* to save.

But all the while, total debt was increasing, increasing relative to the circulating money which is the only money that can be used to pay down debt. (We can't use savings to pay down debt, because it would have to come out of savings first. And we can't borrow to pay down debt because the borrowing increases debt.)

When "debt per dollar" (the red line on the graph) was low, it was compatible with a rising Saving Rate. But as DPD increased, so did financial costs; and rising costs interfered with saving. So the Saving Rate started going down. The downtrend continued to the crisis, just as the uptrend of DPD continued to the crisis.

There are two anomalies. One is since the crisis, when both lines trend down. I think the panic has subsided, so the Saving Rate is also falling again. Meanwhile, the falling DPD simply shows that DPD was too high for a long time.

The other anomaly is in the early 1990s when the red line briefly turns down. At the same moment there is an increase in the Saving Rate. This is no coincidence. A fall in DPD means it is less costly to use money. When it becomes less costly to use money, the economy improves. When the economy improves, people can afford to increase their saving rate.

Oilfield Trash said...

Art

I am liking:

But all the while, total debt was increasing, increasing relative to the circulating money which is the only money that can be used to pay down debt.

I have a simple Macro Stock-Flow Model, which sort of goes like this:

Flow of finance produces a stock of Investments, Stock of Investments, produces a flow of income; Flow of Income produces a stock of Savings.

The flow of finance should not grow faster than the income flows the investments can produce. When it happends the Minsky moment occurs, which is a sudden major collapse of asset values which is part of the credit cycle or business cycle.

Speculation causes a reduction of productive investment.

Which leads me back to where I started

Rising income inequality reduces demand. It does so in two ways. First, it directly forces down the consumption share of GDP, and second, it reduces productive investment by reducing, as Eccles says, "the kind of effective demand for their products that would justify a reinvestment of their capital accumulations in new plants."